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L190 still breathing fast.

 
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funkyj1313
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: L190 still breathing fast. Reply with quote

This weird condition that my L190 has had for about a month now still has me puzzled. He isn't hiding as much (which makes me feel a little more comfortable), I haven't seen him eat in a month (he must be eating something to still be alive), nothing wrong with his body; i.e. fungus, sores or dicoloration, he continues to breathe rapidly and doesn't suck onto the wood as he used to. He sits on a piece of wood, near the middle-bottom of the tank in the current gasping. This is driving me nuts. The water is ok; ammonia-0, nitrite-0, nitrate-5-10, ph-7.4-7.6, temp-80-82. I need to test for gh and kh, but I don't think that is the problem because I have some crushed coral in the filter.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tis indeed a strange one, as you say he must be eating, whats the belly like, are you putting enough oxygen in to the water ? The temps not too high is it ?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has been kept at this temp since I have had him. I tried lowering the temp with no result. I have an 802 powerhead being fed by an Optima pump. There is plenty of oygen in the water. Surface agitation is an Emperor 400 and a Magnum 350. Other current provided by another 802 powerhead on the opposite side and a 501 powerhead in the middle of the tank.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wondering age, but most fish tend to up go almost overnight, not hang about for a month.

He hasn't swallowed something he shouldn't have ? Impeded eating and breathing ?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you see anything on the gills ?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look at him everyday to see if there is something on him. I haven't seen anything on the gills. On another forum somebody said it could be ick on the gills. That would be very hard to see. I may just treat the 135 gallon for ick and be done with it. Might cost a little bit of money, but at least my fish will live.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its possible, so yea it might be an idea to treat the whole tank, funky is this the tank you have had all the trouble with ?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. This is the one that has had the least amount of problems. The other 2 (29 gallon and 50 gallon) are the ones I keep losing fish in. The only fish I lost out of the 135 gallon is the longfin BN.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, so tis a strange one, it might be that the ich has got on the gill filiments, but to last for a month, which tank was it that you had the pH problem in ?. How long have you had this fish ?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ph problems were in the 29 gallon and the 50 gallon in March I believe. I have had this guy since Feb.-Mar. This is the first time I have seen him like this.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He got ick again. I'm going to treat the 135 gallon and kill it altogether this time. Hopefully this will cure him of his odd behavior.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something for you to look up:

Gill Maggots, or Ergasilus.

Gill Disease, Gill Fungus, Gill Flukes, generally have your symptoms. Lying motionless, off the feed, rapid gill movement, maybe swollen and/or inflamed gills.

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